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		<title>Why hire a talented copywriter? Interview with Stephen Dean</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Most internet marketers (including myself) are scared of spending sizeable amounts of money to hire professional copywriters.</p>
<p>The main reason is a well known vicious circle:</p>
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<li>No thoroughly thought strategy,</li>
<li>No resources to do things properly,</li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most internet marketers (including myself) are scared of spending sizeable amounts of money to hire professional copywriters.</p>
<p>The main reason is a well known vicious circle:</p>
<ul>
<li>No thoroughly thought strategy,</li>
<li>No resources to do things properly,</li>
<li>No money to hire talented individuals,</li>
<li>Anarchic use of resources,</li>
<li>Low quality output,</li>
<li>No success,</li>
<li>No money&#8230;</li>
</ul>
<p>This is the risk that you are facing if you do your own copywriting without experience or if you hire a cheap copywriter. Talented copywriters have the ability to provoke the reader&#039;s emotion and trigger them into your desired action. With the help of a professional copywriter, you increase your chances to move into a virtuous circle and have a good return on your investment.</p>
<p>A few days ago, I had the chance to interview <strong><a href="http://www.stephensblog.com/">Stephen Dean</a></strong>, a young but talented copywriter and he shared his view point on this aspect of the copywriting business. Stephen  is a working out of his blog <a href="http://www.stephensblog.com/">stephensblog.com</a>. Some of his past clients include Ryan Deiss, Jim Edwards and other well known entrepreneurs.</p>
<p>Hi Stephen, and thanks for accepting to answer my questions today.</p>
<p><i><b>- When and how should an internet marketer get help from a professional copywriter?</b></i></p>
<p>If you&#039;re looking to create an income stream from a new product or service, it&#039;s smart to hire a copywriter. Obviously your budget will play a big part in your decision, but if you can afford to hire a copywriter it&#039;s the best investment you can make.</p>
<p>For my services, I help clients pick domain names, craft their offer (which often means giving input on the product itself), design their advertising campaigns and THEN write their copy.  That means I get to see behind the scenes of many successful campaigns.</p>
<p>When you apply that expertise to your campaign, the monetary value of each visitor to your site can skyrocket.  Meaning the longer you wait to hire a talented copywriter, the more money you&#039;re watching fall through the cracks.</p>
<p>So you should hire a copywriter as soon as you can.  How do you do so?  Ask other entrepreneurs for recommendations.  Or when you look for a copywriter, look for credibility.</p>
<p>Also, price is important.  If the copywriter is charging less than $2-3k for a sales letter, their skills are likely still developing.  I know from first hand experience because I started out writing sales letters for $97 a piece.  It was virtually manual labor at that point, which made sure my clients got value for their money.</p>
<p>The better I got, the more I charged.  If you&#039;re really good, there&#039;s simply no reason to charge less than a few grand.  So you have to understand that when hiring a copywriter for a few hundred dollars&#8230; it&#039;s not just a discount to be nice.</p>
<p><i><b> &#8211; Is this process accessible to a beginner in internet marketing?</b></i></p>
<p>It doesn&#039;t matter what stage of your business you&#039;re in.  It&#039;s smart for beginners to hire a copywriter too, but they should probably rely heavily on recommendations when choosing a copywriter.  That&#039;s because they don&#039;t have experience knowing what to look for.</p>
<p>It was very beneficial for my career to be endorsed my Ryan Deiss and Jim Edwards at two of their live seminars.  And now I&#039;ve gotten projects through recommendations by legendary copywriter Michel Fortin.  So again, that&#039;s been very helpful.</p>
<p><i><b>- Can a professional copywriter help his clients build a strategy</b> (for example, selecting products to sell, creating a fan club, becoming a guru, and help get higher selling prices for the same product or<br />
service)</i></p>
<p>Absolutely.  Copywriters see a lot of product launches and advertising strategies from behind the scenes.  They see what works.  So we can provide a lot of helpful input and direction.</p>
<p><i><b>- Is it common practice for you to share some risks with your clients?</b> (e.g.: the client pays a reduced fee and you get a bonus if the sales or conversion rates exceed a certain threshold)</i></p>
<p>There are some things I do to make sure the client gets good copy and that I get paid.  I do up to 3 free revisions if the copy bombs.  I also offer testing services where I make sure the conversion continually rises.</p>
<p>Because I understand hiring a copywriter is a big investment, I go out of my to make sure they got their money&#039;s worth.</p>
<p><i><b>- Should any new internet marketer learn copywriting and what are your recommendations to get started?</b></i></p>
<p> Yes.  Most of the top guru&#039;s I know understand copywriting pretty well.<br />
Many of them are former pro copywriters.  And that&#039;s because a lot of copywriting involves the psychology of selling&#8230; and what could be more important when trying to sell products or services?</p>
<p>But even so, virtually all of the guru&#039;s hire other people to write their copy.  Even if they could do it themselves.  That&#039;s because they know it&#039;s worth it.<br />
Let me close on 2 hot subjects of the moment:</p>
<p><i><b>- What impact will videos have on copywriting? For example, do you think that they will replace sales letters?</b></i></p>
<p>I doubt I can predict the future, but I think &#039;replace&#039; is too strong of a word.<br />
I definitely think you&#039;ll continue to see more video sales letters.  But my guess is the majority will be a combination of both.  Different people want to consume information in different ways.</p>
<p>For example, I write the subheads in copy primarily for skimmers.  Those are people who don&#039;t want to read every word, so I spell out the offer in the subheads.  How do you skim a video?</p>
<p>So I imagine text will stay around for people who want to get details fast or just prefer reading.</p>
<p><i>- Traditionally, economic crisis wipe out the weakest businesses and leave a cleaner situation. <b>Do you see an impact of the current recession on the internet business and on copywriting in particular?</b></i></p>
<p> I&#039;ve been paying attention to the economic woes lately and I&#039;m of the (very<br />
humble) opinion that it&#039;s going to get a lot worse.  But there are so many elements to consider that I&#039;m not sure what will be affected and in what way.</p>
<p>For example, if the US market collapses, there&#039;s still another market in Europe and other places&#8230; and the Internet allows us to reach them.  Could those markets collapse with ours? Some people think so. I&#039;m not an expert so I won&#039;t give my opinion on that.</p>
<p>You might see beginning copywriters drop out.  You might see the average copywriter lower their prices.  And you might see the top copywriters raise them.</p>
<p>For Internet businesses, you&#039;d probably see less frivolous products being developed and an emphasis on more practical products&#8230; and probably a huge surge of &#034;Internet Marketing&#034; products aimed at the Average Joe who normally wouldn&#039;t be looking for such a thing.</p>
<p>But again, I&#039;m no expert.  So we&#039;ll have to wait and see.</p>
<p>Thank you Stephen</p>
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		<title>Who said that money making cannot be fun?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">At last, I have decided to give it a go. Since many people seem to be making loads of money with internet marketing and blogging, then perhaps I should give it a try or rather verify that all that they are saying is true. </span></span></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">At last, I have decided to give it a go. Since many people seem to be making loads of money with internet marketing and blogging, then perhaps I should give it a try or rather verify that all that they are saying is true. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">First, let me introduce myself. My name is Edgar Boutaric and I am quite new in the field of blogging and internet marketing. However, I am not a total beginner on the web as I currently operate two dozens of MFA sites and I make money with them (not quite enough to live, but a nice complement). As a consequence, I have acquired a decent knowledge of SEO. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">For the last couple years, I have also read many e-books and courses on the subject of making money on the net and I have decided to experiment various techniques by myself (such as article marketing). </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">The only thing that I want to make sure is that all my money-making techniques are fun and do not require too much repetitive work, or if they do, that this work can be automated easily. I have never been in favor of working without fun as I think that people should work smart not hard. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">On this blog, I will report my progress and also, I’ll give some feedback on what I have learnt throughout the process.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">There is no reason that this blog itself should not be making money.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>So promoting this blog and making money with it will be my first experiment. Here is my road map:</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">-</span><span style="font: 7pt ">          </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">Write at least 2 articles per week. You certainly have guessed that this blog is not for search engines, but primarily for humans with the best possible content I can produce.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">-</span><span style="font: 7pt ">          </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">I do not plan to have a mailing list per say, but I’ll encourage visitors to subscribe to blog updates by giving away valuable free information.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">-</span><span style="font: 7pt ">          </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">During the first month or so, I need to find or create three products that I can sell (they could be affiliate products). I have no intention to have ads, at least not in the MFA sense. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">-</span><span style="font: 7pt ">          </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">SEO promotion plan</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">-</span><span style="font: 7pt ">          </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">I will be submitting one article per week using Artemis</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">-</span><span style="font: 7pt ">          </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">I will also submit the blog to about 500 directories. At 10$, it is worthwhile, even if I do not expect miracles from this submission. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">-</span><span style="font: 7pt ">          </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">I plan to do link exchanges using Axandra or similar &#8212; probably 100-200 and only with relevant sites</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">-</span><span style="font: 7pt ">          </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">I will use Kahuna network as well as my own content network to get additonal links to this blog. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">Some tools I plan to use:</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">            </span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">The blog has been created with <a title="Semiologic CMS package" href="http://www.edgarboutaric.com/semiologic">Semiologic</a>. This package is based on wordpress but it offers the best collection of bug-free plugins and it eliminates the nightmare of updating your site at each new wordpress release. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">I will use glyphius as much as possible to optimize blog titles and to write my sales pages. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Finally, I’ll use Artemis pro to submit unique versions of articles to various magazines and blogs.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">In the upcoming posts, I will provide more reviews and feedbacks on each of these tools.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;"><span style="font-size: small;">So please check back regularly to learn how to make money with fun and also the newest tools and software that can contribute to this objective.</span></span></p>


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